For Teaks, or anyone else who played Red Alert:

I was there when we did that once. So have we done that twice now? Because when I was there I was the one that said SUICIDE BRIGADE, ATTACK! or did we both say it that one time?

New Close Quarters trailer

Rumored new weapon list for CQ:
AUG Assault Rifle (think bad guy from Die Hard)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steyr_Aug
Moderate damage, little recoil, quick acquisition. Engineer or Assault.

SCAR Assault Rifle

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCAR_L
They already have the SCAR-H (Heavy, or 7.62mm) for the engie, so I assume this is the SCAR-L (Light, 5.56mm). Probably assault for variety.

ACW-R Carbine

Frankenstein of ideas (grabbed parts/concepts from G3, M16, SCAR, G36, MP5, etc) that is being pitched as a possible replacement for the M16.

MTAR-21 Carbine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTAR-21
Israli bullpup. Very fast cyclic rate, decent everything else. Probably engie.

M417 Sniper Rifle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HK_417
H&K 7.62mm rifle based on the M4 design. Bit of recoil, but fast acquisiton, still decent at CQB.

JNG-90 Sniper Rifle

Bolt-action Sniper rifle...Turkish...don't know squat else about it.

L86LSW Machine Gun Heavy version (LMG) of the L85. Expect L85 with bigger clip.

LSAT Machine Gun

Lightweight Small Arms Technologies
Had to read up on this one. Still in development. Machine Gun that uses caseless ammo currently under design/research for US armed forces. Best guess on gameplay is similar to M249, quicker acquisition, but slower cyclic rate.

M5K Tactical Machine Pistol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_MP5#MP5K
Best guess: They're talking about H&K's MP5K submachine gun. Given EA's lack of attaching brand names...I can find nothing else. Should be very similar to MP7.

SPAS-12 Shotgun
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPAS_12
(Sporting Purpose Automatic Shotgun)
Think jurassic park or L4D2 manhammer. Semi-auto (in real life..guessing that's what they're after here as counterpart to 870). Probably slightly faster firing (or more pellets) with a wider spread then 870.

nice fucking post, teaks.

you should start a battlefield 3 tip blog.

Good info Teaks. Convinced me to make a post on the new weapons. I tried to dig up as much info as I could on how the weapons will relate to gameplay, such as round capacity, fire rate, etc... if you see anything inaccurate, let me know.

http://bftips.com/2012/05/close-quarter ... -gun-info/

Who at DICE do I need to blow for that?

And agent, the accuracy is the same for the tac, suppressed, and standard versions. Damage is equal between tac and non-tac. The suppressed versions have a shorter minimum damage dropoff distance and slower bullet travel, so you really want to avoid engagements beyond 20 feet with them. Most non-suppressed pistols do full damage up until about 30. Wish there was another website I could add this info to.

Also,