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Author:  superspck [ Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:19 pm ]
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In-Game Advertising
20 October 2006


Recently there's been a lot of fuss over Battlefield 2142's in-game advertising software. I admit I, like several other sites, incorrectly stated initially that it monitors your general browsing habits, when in reality it only monitors your behavior while playing in-game. I apologize for any confusion, and the correct technical details for how this type of advertising technology works can be found here. Essentially while you're playing, information is collected about (among other things) which in-game ads are in your field of view, from how far away, for how long and from what angle.



OK, so what's the harm in that? This is no big deal, we have ads all around us already, right? It's not quite that simple. This issue is different, and has great bearing on the future of gaming in my opinion. To start with, advertising exists to be noticed. Advertisers don't pay large sums of money to have their ads just blend into the background. Using the data gathered above, advertisers will be able to see which ads gain the most attention, and focus on putting up more of them, in more prominent locations over time. There's no other reason for monitoring ad viewing behavior than to customize ads for 'maximum impact'. So if you're expecting ads to remain as innocuous out-of-sight novelties, think carefully about how pointless that would be for advertisers. The gaming experience relies greatly on immersion, and I oppose anything which can ruin that immersion, such as distracting ads.



However the most legitimate complaint that gamers should have about in-game advertising is that it currently gives us no benefit whatsoever. We put up with ads on TV and on websites for example because they are what makes TV and websites free to consumers. If we don't want annoying ads, we then pay a premium price for Cable TV, or buy DVDs, or subscribe to a website. But that's not how in-game advertising works. EA Games, which is pioneering this approach, expects us to pay full price for a game like BF2142, in return for the privilege of turning our machines into an ad server while gaming. They reap additional profits while we gain absolutely nothing. EA argues that this model will allow for 'additional support' for the game, yet aren't they the same company which already puts out multiple non-free expansion packs to supplement their revenue, take months to address concerns via delayed patches, and are now also charging gamers to activate cheats in games like Tiger Woods 2007? Doesn't our initial payment for a game already entitle us to proper support and functionality, as it has in the past for so many other great games?



I apologize for the long front-page article, as this is not what I normally like to post, but I honestly believe we're on a slippery slope with this new business model that is being forced upon us. Using their market dominance, and given the allure of extra revenue streams, it seems EA is having their cake and eating it too, at our expense. Think carefully before purchasing a game based on this sort of model - there are many games out there with far better gameplay, which can be purchased at a lower price, and receive much better support than these 'ad supported' titles.
Author:  Happy [ Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:46 pm ]
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Im not gonna buy it till a hack comes out to turn that shit off.
Author:  assrott [ Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:46 pm ]
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Author:  Agent_137 [ Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:40 am ]
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Author:  Agnt.Smith [ Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:55 am ]
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Author:  Heretic [ Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:35 am ]
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Author:  Glimfeather [ Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:48 pm ]
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Author:  DLong [ Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:12 pm ]
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Author:  Teaks [ Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:36 pm ]
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I agree with everyone else here. I even went so far as likeing bf2 enough to do a pre-purchase of BF2142 from bestbuy. At this point in time though I don't see the point in spending the extra cash to finish purchaseing the game (i.e. $10 lose instead of $40 lose) when they pull crap like that. I'll wait for the hack that turns it off or for EA games to put out a press release stating that it can be turned off ingame. They had a great thing going with BF2 and I can even understand just trying to improve upon it (instead of a complete rebuild) to make bf2142 (bf:vietnam was essentially the same over bf1942, and though not significantly different it was still a lot of fun and i more then got my purchase price out of it). However, this BS about in-game advertising it absolute bullshit, espically without any significant benefit to the users.

As a second reason for not buying: No one else is. 90% of the reason I buy any game anymore is that everyone else in the gay-butseckorz-community joins in and plays too. I hate everyone in Memphis, and the online gaming pretty much amounts to my social life (yes, it's sad, however Forest Gump's IQ dwarfs most of Memphis and everyone I work with is 50 yrs. old...doesn't leave much).

So here's my question: What games are everyone interested in now? Company of Heros is really badass as far as RTS's go, and I really enjoy that but I also want a good alternative.

I'm sure many will mildly continue with BF2, at least until BF2142 is proven as a complete dud or a mild success. I've considered going the route of WoW, espically with the impending expansion thereby ensuring that the game won't die in the next 6 months. SPCK and I have been enjoying a bit of Splinter Cell action but that's fairly limited in the number of players. Anyone have any suggestions, or want to give support to any of the options I've brought up?
Author:  Teaks [ Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:52 pm ]
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Alright, so it's 'loss' instead of 'lose', and i'm already seeing other spelling errors in there.

Hey, if i didn't post drunk i wouldn't post at all....
Author:  DRAGONHAWK [ Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:56 pm ]
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DONT PLAY WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WoW must die
Author:  rmrfkorea [ Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:29 am ]
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DONT PLAY WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WoW must die
Author:  Agnt.Smith [ Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:08 am ]
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WoW must die
Author:  Agent_137 [ Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:25 pm ]
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Author:  Agent_137 [ Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:27 pm ]
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In other news, we do need a good game we can all play and enjoy again.

armageddon?
Author:  Happy [ Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:33 pm ]
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armageddon?
haha.lol

nobody enjoys armageddon
Author:  Agent_137 [ Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:11 am ]
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YOAR MAWM LIKES IT
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Author:  Sabs [ Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:01 pm ]
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Author:  assrott [ Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:28 pm ]
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Welcome back, sir. How's the new place?
Author:  Agent_137 [ Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:26 pm ]
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