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Author:  Agent_137 [ Thu May 03, 2012 11:11 pm ]
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Did my preorder.

I'll be on when I'm not baby-ing. Wife is due on the 14th so yeah....this'll be by non-baby entertainment.
aww, see you in a few years, hoss.

Author:  Smoke [ Fri May 04, 2012 5:34 am ]
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aww, see you in a few years, hoss.

Author:  Sabs [ Fri May 04, 2012 11:21 am ]
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Yeah Teaks, did a lot of reading on the auction house. Basically, if you sell a $10 piece of equipment, you'll get $6.23 for it (including the standard 2.8% Paypal received payment cut, if that applies). While I think the real money auction house is a great feature and will make things a lot more safe and secure, the fees are a little overboard. I think 15% for the sale itself is reasonable, but I think the 15% to transfer to Paypal from Blizzard's side is kinda nuts.

The auction house regions are also stupid to me. The "Americas" region of course includes the US, Canada, and Latin America. Ok. Plus Australia and New Zealand. Weird, but I'll let it go. And Southeast Asia. What?? As part of the Americas region? So Laos, Vietnam, and other fairly poor countries are included. Now, of course the poorest people will not have their own computers and internet connections, but there will be plenty of internet cafes where they can farm away for items for 16 hours a day. They can cash out from Paypal in these countries just as we can. In US dollars, they'll be making out great. Of course, the extra items being dropped and sold from these regions will bring down the value of items for everyone within that auction house region.

Why do I think this is a problem? Blizzard created a cash auction house with the ability to add and withdraw funds, knowing people would either a) put in their own cash to buy items they want or b) sell items for cash. But including countries with vastly different economies in the same auction house is not a good idea. Item values will be lower across the board - good for the players who buy items, bad for the sellers. It'll also mean a smaller cut for Blizzard, but I bet they set up the regions to mimic the world economy - poor countries mass producing goods to sell to wealthy nations.

I find the cash auction house feature very interesting so I'm curious to see how it plays out. As the average US citizen's time is worth a lot more in US dollars than someone in Vietnam, I don't see it being worth doing any grinding with the intent of finding and selling items. But since Blizzard's RPG's are sooooo addictive (Casino game operators only wish they could match them) people will grind away regardless.

Before the days of [H], I played/grinded a lot of Diablo II. I used eBay to sell items, and eventually my characters when I quit. I sold about $400 worth of stuff. I don't see Diablo III being nearly as entertaining as BF3, or profitable enough to make grinding worthwhile. I know I'll miss out on some gaming with all of you over the next few months by not buying Diablo III, but I don't think I'd do well at limiting my playtime after "completing" the game (seeing all the dungeons and bosses).

Author:  Happy [ Fri May 04, 2012 11:28 am ]
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How can I launder my drug money if I can't send it over international borders via the Diablo 3 marketplace?

Author:  Teaks [ Fri May 04, 2012 2:11 pm ]
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How can I launder my drug money if I can't send it over international borders via the Diablo 3 marketplace?
Who said you can't launder it through the Diablo Marketplace? So long as you're good with Blizz being your dirty to clean guy...and taking their appropriate cut, you're good to go. If you need to change regions you just reset the location for your bnet account...

Author:  Teaks [ Fri May 04, 2012 2:18 pm ]
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Yeah....the level of fees kinda pissed me off at first, but after thinking about it last night...there's no monthly fee for the game, so any extra money blizz is going to make on it comes solely from the moeny they make off the AH. So long as they maintain a decent number of servers dedicated to keeping bnet/diablo3 up and running (and they're blizz, so they will) I can see them needing a revenue stream to maintain all that. In addition I think that taking fees from the buyers would just limit the number of buyers you have, hence limiting what can be sold and driving down prices altogether. In the end, I dont have a huge issue with the fees as established.

As for the regions: yeah, it's crap that they included anything Asia into the "Americas", but even if they didn't and they tried to base your region off of IP's or any such people would find a way around it in about 2 days, and you'd have that same cesspool of floating crap anyway. Those that are in it for the sake of making a few bucks will find the servers/regions with the highest return for their time investment...and then they'll pay local kids $.25 a day to farm shit for them. This is why I get upset when people talk about how we dont regularly napalm other countries anymore. That's just poor international politics.

Author:  Agent_137 [ Fri May 04, 2012 10:11 pm ]
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cool story. personally though, i don't care about mmo shit-eaters getting charged a cut of the shit they eat.

Author:  Teaks [ Fri May 04, 2012 10:32 pm ]
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Whining and Bitching
Then quit bitching about it. If you want to bitch go here:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3208

Author:  Agent_137 [ Fri May 04, 2012 11:48 pm ]
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Teaks,

me saying "i don't give a fuck" by definition cannot qualify as bitching.

Sorry,
Agent

p.s.
bitching is more like this:
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the level of fees kinda pissed me off

Author:  Teaks [ Sat May 05, 2012 7:11 am ]
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Teaks,

me saying "i don't give a fuck" by definition cannot qualify as bitching.

Sorry,
Agent

p.s.
bitching is more like this:
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the level of fees kinda pissed me off
I apologize for my misrepresentation of your negativity. That thread is pretty damn funny though.

Author:  Sabs [ Sat May 05, 2012 10:31 am ]
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Yeah, great stuff there. I will not speak of it within that thread, so as not to disturb the flow of bitching.

Author:  KingLoser [ Tue May 08, 2012 9:53 am ]
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Yeah, Asian money farmers ruin games. Although, they are fun to fuck with in MMOs. Not sure you will be able to do that in this.

Author:  rmrfkorea [ Sun May 13, 2012 6:35 pm ]
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why are people bitching that blizzard is taking a % and pp... you know, seeing as they are allowing you to make 'money' fo rplaying a game. wtf gold farmer qq babies!!!!!!!!1111


also i hate that agent doesn't post in the thread 24/7.

Author:  KingLoser [ Sun May 13, 2012 9:30 pm ]
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Might be picking this up at midnight. Have not decided.

Author:  dime [ Mon May 14, 2012 8:01 pm ]
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I've decided not to buy right now.

Maybe once the price drops.

Author:  Teaks [ Tue May 15, 2012 7:14 am ]
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I've decided not to buy right now.

Maybe once the price drops.
Silly Rabbit, Blizz's prices don't drop...

Author:  dime [ Tue May 15, 2012 10:22 am ]
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Blurg, I have zero impulse control.

Effing bought.

Author:  superspck [ Tue May 15, 2012 4:29 pm ]
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We're still on board, but have to keep putting off. Should have it sooner than later.

Author:  optik_ [ Tue May 15, 2012 11:02 pm ]
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Where can I find your battletags?
Bf3 wont run on my POS, but im playing d3 right now

Author:  Teaks [ Tue May 15, 2012 11:54 pm ]
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Where can I find your battletags?
Bf3 wont run on my POS, but im playing d3 right now
I'll start a thread in the more private side of my anus.

Author:  optik_ [ Wed May 16, 2012 12:11 pm ]
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Don't forget to give me access!

Author:  dime [ Wed May 16, 2012 12:39 pm ]
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tbh, pretty bored with d3 so far

Author:  dime [ Wed May 16, 2012 5:18 pm ]
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strike that. tore ass with snowpea berge and teaks today. fun shit.

Author:  Smoke [ Wed May 16, 2012 5:52 pm ]
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All I hear is people being dissatisfied with the way the game handles so far.

Also Teaks, has your wife shit out a kid yet? :D

Author:  Teaks [ Wed May 16, 2012 6:48 pm ]
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Also Teaks, has your wife shit out a kid yet? :D
nope

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